JohnK

Snickers Energy Bar Marathon

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Location:

Athens,GA,USA

Member Since:

Oct 01, 2006

Gender:

Male

Goal Type:

Other

Running Accomplishments:

2:51.13 marathon PR (Drake Relays, 1983) 2:59.12 masters best (Snickers Marathon, Albany, GA, 2008) Other PRs: mile 4:42, 3,000m 9:30, 5K 16:30, 10K 34:31, 20K 1:12.27, half-marathon 1:18.57

Short-Term Running Goals:

~2:57 marathon in '08 (missed by 2:00 with a 2:59.12, but I'll take it)

Long-Term Running Goals:

Sub-3:00 marathon at age 50 (2010) and possibly a sub-2:57.15 (Georgia state 50-54 age division record) that year; continue enjoying running for another 50 years from that point!

Personal:

Born in Iowa, I now live in Athens, Georgia and have been married to Amy for 17 years. We have two children: Emma age 13, William age 12

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Race: Snickers Energy Bar Marathon (26.2 Miles) 02:59:12, Place overall: 17, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesTotal Distance
0.7526.250.000.0027.00

Short story: 2:59.12 on a perfect marathon morning weather-wise. So I'm rather pleased although thinking I could have gone a minute or so faster but it's not a big deal.

I hardly slept Friday night -- maybe got 3 hours -- as I just couldn't relax and had a really bad headache for a while. But I think I was pretty well rested from the previous week so it probably didn't hurt me, just made for a long night and some really poor television viewing.

I felt good from the gun and started just a bit fast (6:40) but that wasn't as bad as a lot of folks. I was probably not even top 30 at the mile and began passing people fairly soon and finished 17th OA. (During the entire race only one person passed me!) I went 6:40, 6:45, 6:42, 6:40, 6:44 to hit 5 in 33:31. Feeling great. Next 5 were 6:40, 6:43, 6:44, 6:43, 6:53 (#10 had to be a long mile) for 1:07.14 at 10. By this time I was very gradually catching a guy in neon yellow shorts and shirt and still feeling good but had been on my own for several miles. Next 5 were 6:51, 6:47, 6:50 (13.1 in 1:28. 26),6:48, 6:50 for 1:41.20 at 15.

I caught Mr. Neon right after the half and he stayed with me for a few miles which was nice as we chatted a bit. This was his first marathon and I could tell he was laboring so wasn't surprised when he dropped off after 16. That mile (6:57) worried me but then 17 was a 6:41, so those were almost certainly marked wrong. I saw a woman up ahead and closed in on her and then we worked together a while. Next three 6:52, 6:44, 6:48 to hit 20 in 2:15.22. I had pulled away from the woman by 20 and no one was in sight up ahead, which was too bad as some company would have helped, but I was feeling okay and figured I'd hold on for sub-3:00, maybe around 2:58.

Mile 21 was 6:54 then a 7:00 and my left foot began cramping a little. This was really not what I wanted -- it never got bad enough to make me stop but I was very worried that would happen. And the last 4 miles all kinds of turns which made it feel slow, but perhaps those turns helped keep the cramp at bay. A really young guy passed me at 23 and raced off -- he ended up just under 2:56 so had a great finish. Anyway, I lost focus on pace somewhat and slowed to 7:04, 7:07, 7:05 (25 in 2:50.32) and right after finishing mile 25 crossed a busy street and was almost mowed down by a motorcycle! I came to a full stop to avoid an accident so lost several second stopping and getting started up again. Thus I didn't enjoy the final mile too much and it was slow (7:11), but I was certainly happy finishing -- never hit the wall, just felt the sort of gradual fatigue I had expected to feel if I paced it pretty well. I won the 45-49 division. My 5 mile segments were 33:31, 33:43, 34:06, 34:02, 35:10 and I'm especially pleased with miles 16-20. I think w/o the slight cramp I'd have focused on finishing as strongly as possible (rather than just holding it together and  hoping the cramp didn't get bad), so might have been :30-:60 faster but who knows.

The woman I ran with a little turned out to be Valerie Gortmaker from Nebraska who already has a qualifier (2:46 from Tallahassee last spring) but has been injured and she said she was using this race to determine whether to run the Trials. I think she was disappointed and may wait for 2012. She's 32 but didn't start running until 4-5 years ago. I talked with her prior to awards -- nice person, played rugby in college then tore her ACL and switched to cycling and running, so no early background in the sport but some real talent. (Sounds like someone I know!) I felt sorry from Georgia's Beth Old, a previous Trials participant (2:39 PR) who missed the B standard by less than a minute in third place. A Kenyan woman won in 2:37 and a Cheryl Murphy of Victoria, BC, Canada was 2nd in 2:40 -- haven't seen online results yet. Simon Sawe won men's in 2:26 and Andy Martin of Oregon was 2nd (2:27) with a Kenyan from Mobile, AL 3rd in 2:29, I think. Top master was a Canadian in 2:38, possibly the husband of the 2nd place woman. The $3000/$2000/$1000 prize money in men's and women's open brought in some pretty good talent and the race more than doubled in size from last year's inagural running (1100 in full + half, still small but not bad for Albany, GA).

That's about it. After the disappointment of Chicago's unusually hot weather last fall this was nice, running close to what I felt capable of. Not too sore this a.m. despite 4+ hours driving home but I'll not attempt running for several days and will stretch and walk a lot instead.

Comments
From Paul Petersen on Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 12:04:02

Nice job; solid splits.

From johnr on Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 12:42:15

John,

Congratulations on your master's PR. Your hard training paid off.

From Chad on Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 15:23:45

Four words you always want to use to describe a marathon experience: "never hit the wall." That's a sign of both mental and physical toughness. Great race.

From Mark on Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 18:29:25

Awesome race John. Way to go and hang in through the cramps, those could really ruin a race. Looks like a new masters PR also.

From dave holt on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:58:31

Way to go John! The race looked very consistent for you.

From JohnK on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 10:56:56

Thanks for these comments. I'm pleased with my effort and performance, although I still feel I can go a bit faster before age (presently 48) starts to seriously slow me down. But I won't attempt another one for at least six months and perhaps not until 2009.

From Andy on Mon, Mar 03, 2008 at 18:50:13

Very well run race. Having to come to a complete stop is the last thing you want to do during a race. Great job plugging through to the end.

From jtshad on Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 10:55:23

Congratulations on the sub 3:00 performance and 17th OA is fantastic! Sorry to hear about the issues after 21 miles, but you still ran an amazing race.

From MichelleL on Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 20:12:54

congratulations on your sub 3:00! You were really strong and I agree that miles 16-20 had awesome splits.

From JohnK on Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 21:09:19

Thanks Andy, Jeff and Michelle. I'm just a bit disappointed about the final few miles and especially the really slow last 1.2 -- I certainly should have been able to push it a bit to finish under 2:59, and I don't seem to remember the foot bothering me that last mile. Oh well, nothing I can do about it now! But overall I'm pleased. Supposedly 2:59.12 at age 48 = 2:43 and change at an optimal age, so if I believe that this would be my best marathon effort.

From Sasha Pachev on Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:10:42

This is a significant breakthrough not only in terms of time, but also in terms of holding your own in the last 10 miles. I think you are beginning to reap the rewards of your training, finally. This goes to show that it can take as long as a year or more of high mileage before you start seeing a difference at the end of a marathon.

This sounds like a great course for an OTQ for 2012. I think I would like to try it in 2009. They say it is flat, but so does everybody, I noticed. A loop course with a total of 1000 feet of gain, and equivalent drop still gets marketed as flat. Is this one truly pancake flat, as in track-flat, or does it just not have any long hills?

I wonder why Sawe ran so slow. Probably just fast enough to win.

From Paul Petersen on Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:15:50

Sasha - I've noticed that Sawe races A LOT. And he usually runs just fast enough to get money, or else drops out so that he can save it for another race. For instance, he dropped out of Trials, but has raced a couple marathons since then, and done well. He does way more marathons per year than any other elite I've seen, but I think he loafs through some of them, which is why he can get away with it.

From JohnK on Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:56:29

Thanks, Sasha. I agree that consistently higher mileage appears to be working for me. I haven't jumped up a whole lot, but it's been enough to make a difference. And I've learned that 8 or 9 miles easy can be a good recovery day for me, whereas before I usually just ran 45 minutes (~6 miles).

The Snickers course really is nice in terms of making fast times possible. It's not track flat but there is only one hill (mile #13) that I noticed as being a real hill, and even it wasn't at all bad. Otherwise the only negative would be quite a few turns during miles 23-25 but that's not a big deal. If they keep prize money as it was this year you should definitely consider it. I might go back too (but obviously not for the money!).

Paul, I agree it's likely Sawe ran only fast enough to win. A guy like that should be able to run sub-2:15 on this course if need be.

From MichelleL on Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 13:10:31

The most important question is, do they hand out Snickers at the end? What size? If king size I am there :)

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